Due to some confusion this past weekend in Tulsa for the TCU-Tulsa men's match over the giving of a coach's warning and subsequent penalties, those in ITA leadership were asked to clarify the rule about penalizing a coach.
On page 251 of the FAC, the rule says, "If a coach in any way interferes with play or distracts an opposing player at any time, he shall receive a direct warning from the Referee or Umpire. For any subsequent violation, his player, on the court where the violation occurred, shall be assessed a point penalty. Penalties for coaching are not treated as part of the ITA Point Penalty System, and they do not accumulate."
The procedure is further clarified on page 252 of the FAC, when it says, "If the coach's behavior continues following the warning the Referee or official shall immediately assess a point penalty against his player (on the court where the behavior occurred).
It goes on to say, "If there are any further behavior problems with the coach, the Referee may bar the coach from continuing to coach for the rest of the event, and if the coach continues to coach, the Referee may declare a default of all the coach's players and teams whose matches are still in progress."
The question has been raised about whether all three coaches (if they choose to have three) get a warning and then a point penalty or whether all three are treated as one person.
The ruling from on high is that the coaches are to be treated as one person. That means that if a warning is given to an assistant then the head coach moves directly to a point penalty when and if he is penalized.
Many of us have probably given a coach's warning somewhere along the line but it very seldom goes to a point penalty or a removal (even though some of our Texas coaches have been removed from the site in California). At least now we know the proper procedure...
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But certain "well seasoned" officials in Okie Land go straight to defaulting the player of the offending coach without passing go.
You would think they could figure out how to read the FAC, but I guess when you are flustered, the easy way out is to always issue a default and get out of Paul's Valley, so to speak.
What's that I smell? Could it be homecooking in Tulsa?
How are we, as solo chairs with no dedicated off-court referee, supposed to know when one of the three coaches receives a Coaches' Code of Conduct" penalty? I see lots of cases of follow-up penalties being assessed incorrectly. If that happens, what will be the fall back. Oops, I'm sorry, instead of a warning, your player is now down a point???
This will be extremely hard to enforce.
I tend to think that even a beginning ITA chair official would know the proper procedure for dealing with the coach. Perhaps more training and teaching is necessary.
If there is a coaching conduct 'point penalty', when do you assess it? The next point or the start of the next game?(like in carryover penalties) To assess it at the next point, than all playing action has to come to a stop.
Those of us experienced officials are fully aware of the official involved, and for those of us that used to work for the gentleman, most of us are smart enough to stay clear of the matches he coordinates.
Time has come for this certain official to hang up his boots and enjoy late retirement.
On a side note, does anybody know what actually happened in Tulsa? Rumors are flying among the officiating community. Based on what I've heard coming out of Tulsa in the past, I'm not too surprised this type of incident occurred there. They have a pretty bad (and deserved) reputation for being a sleazy program where the coach decides which officials get to work which matches and which lines. If you do something to anger the home coaching staff, then you are done working there.
Maybe that's why when Tulsa travels outside of their home courts, they feel like they are getting screwed. What goes around truly comes around.
Sometimes we officials tend to overreact when we have two to four players and two coaches screaming at us at one time. Might have been the case in Tulsa...
To have 2 to 4 players and 2 coaches screaming at you at the same time, might indicate that you maybe did something that deserved that reaction. Ya think?
You do not exeperience the referenced reaction on each and every point during a match......
It seems so many individuals who were not there or involved in the match knows so much about what really happen. There are 20 or more individuals that observed the incident that disagrees with most comments. If you want the correct ruling then one needs to study the friend of court about what responsibles and authority the referee has. If a coach / players
uses ethnic remarks, spit on player or another individuals, using loud screaming into the face of individuals then the referee can by-pass all steps and imediately default player, have coach removed etc.
I seriously doubt that Coach Roditi would engage in one of the immediate default actions described above.
Although Anonymous does correctly describe actions which could lead to an immediate default, the said poster does not indicate what action that led to Coach Roditi's banishment. This appears to be an attempt to obfuscate the situation by the obstinate poster, who by his remarks must have been in attendance during this match.
The 9:00am Anonymous Poster is such a dumbass. It looks like he needs to go back and actually read the FAC. But then again based on his poor "grammer", he probably flunked elementary school and can't read in the first place. I would like for this person to explain where in the FAC he gets his facts from.
If you READ Table 10 "Guidelines For Assessing Penalties," the last comment in BOLD states: An official may immediately default a player for a single flagrant unsportsmanlike act. Examples of acts that may justify a penalty of immediate default include: physical attacks, injury to an official or player through the act of racket or ball abuse; spitting on a person; and racial, religious, or sexual orentation slurs."
Where in the hell is the "loud and screaming into the face of individuals" ????
Is this some religious interpretation of the FAC (i.e., Bible) our brethren in Tulsa are taking upon themselves? If not, I better call the USTA cause I think I'm missing a very important page from my 2011 FAC.
I know the Referee in question and I can vividly remember an incident where he was the chair umpire of a very contentious Line 1 doubles match between Tulsa and Texas (hint hint). After Tulsa lost the match, one of the players spit directly on one of the Texas player's shirt as they were shaking hands, directly in front of the chair umpire who was still perched in his chair. And guess what, the chair umpire didn't see anything. Even when the Texas player showed him the spit running down the front of his shirt, the only thing he had to say was "I didn't see it." HELLO!!!!!!!!
The Tulsa coach immediately grabbed his player and yanked him away from the Texas team to prevent further problems. But of course the player was still in the Singles line-up.
I bet the 20 some-odd individuals that witnessed the incident were either Tulsa players or fanatic drunk Tulsa fans. Of course they would agree with the default. The chicken was frying in the cooker (i.e., home cooking at its finest).
The key three minutes from the Tulsa-TCU singles match is about to be posted to YouTube for the world to see. The world will then know the truth and it will be obvious who the chair umpire was, as if everyone doesn't already know.
Is this one reason Tulsa has such a hard time filling officiating positions? Nobody is dumb enough to work for this Referee!
Be sure to send us the link to the you tube video and we will post it on the blog. Might even try to add it to the blog if I can ever figure out how to do it.
Since some blogger claimed to have a video of the four overrules by the official in the Baylor-Virginia match, I figure we should give ample time to this one.
Yep, "PJ" was the Referee for the match. -Nough said!
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