SCENARIO ONE
In a men's ITA doubles match, the coach of Team B disagrees with a non-overrule by the chair on a second serve that had been called out by Team A. The coach of Team B is standing on the far side of the court from the chair official and then proceeds into the service box of Team A to point out the place on the court where he said the ball landed.
Here is the rule for a player in this situation--how would you rule when a coach does it?
A player shall not cross the net to point out a mark or discuss a
problem. A player who does shall be penalized under the ITA Point
Penalty System."
SCENARIO TWO
In a women's ITA doubles match, team A serves a second serve let. Team B calls the ball a fault and Team A protests the call and receives an overrule.
How should the chair official rule?
10 comments:
I'd be inclined to let the coach make his point and show the mark without penalty, but I would not change the call. If he failed to leave the court after a reasonable amount of time, I would call "time" and give him 20 seconds to get back to position, otherwise call a point penalty on his player.
Scenario 1; I hope this was a game ending point, or the coach is on the court interrupting play. Which goes into where a coach can stand. If he is interrupting play, Coach's Code.
We play on hard courts, ball marks are not discussed
Scenario 2; Second serve, overrule to team B
#1 - I would just look at the coach and again repeat that I saw the ball out. If he stands there, I would remind him that he can't stand inside the lines during a game.
#2 - "correction, the ball was in. Second serve." And that counts as one overrule.
Tell the coach to back their butt back off the court and give a coaches warning...
Not sure about who was overruled in the ladies match...but, the serve was a second serve let first... then an overrule - so, first serve.
Scenario 1: Coaches Code of Conduct disrupting play
Scenario 2: Let 2nd Serve, overrule against receiving team
Fontana has it WRONG. You NEVER penalize a player time violations for the coaches' behaviours. The coach is under their own penalty system. READ THE RULES!
Um...the answers to scenario 2 are interesting.
What is the rational/logic behind charging the receiver with an overrule and then giving the server a 2nd serve? (Essentially giving the reciever a "second chance" at a point they made a bad call (hook) on, and we're overruled. Along with having the server at a disadvantage with an already bad call on the point, and then allowing only a second serve.)
I can understand awarding the server a first serve; however, I am more inclined to (after the appeal) overrule and award the point to the server and let the receiver know that they are being charged with an over rule....Moreso because of the spirit of the "second chance" rule...since the ITA doesn't address specifically, then we revert to "The Code."
I lean toward awarding the point to the server and crediting the receiver with an overrule.
In meetings of a large number of officials they are about even split on the issue.
Maybe there should be a bit more clarification of the rule.
Why would you give the server the pt, it was a let, so go and hit a second serve, still receiver charged with overrule. If the correct call had been made the server would be hitting a second serve anyways.
1. Issue Coaches Code Conduct Penalty.
2. Point to team A. Overrule charged to team B.
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