Saturday, September 14, 2013

How Would You Rule? Net questions...

These are a couple of really good scenarios from an ITA tournament in Belton this weekend.

SCENARIO ONE

In a singles match with singles sticks, the player hits a groundstroke that hits the top of the net between the net post and singles stick and then goes in.

Is the ball good or does the player lose the point?

SCENARIO TWO

In a singles match with singles sticks, the player runs up to the net to hit a short ball.  He then returns the ball for a winner but while it is still in play he runs into the net and net post outside of the singles stick.

Does he lose or win the point?

11 comments:

Larry said...

1. Loss of point.

2. Wins that point.

AR Hacked Off said...

1. Lose pt since hit outside of net stick

2. wins pt as he can touch net and post outside of sticks

Anonymous said...

Two highly qualified underpaid official statements

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Michael Fontana said...

Whomever gets the first one wrong should be forced to buy not only their own but every other officials lunch. If singles sticks are in use, anything outside them is considered a permanent fixture so the player hitting the ball loses the point. This is the whole point of singles sticks....:)

In the second case, touching any part of the net or posts including that part outside the singles sticks while a ball is in play causes the loss of a point.

I do realize these can be tricky to call at full speed without a proper angle, but if both players agree about what transpired, above is accurate.

Anonymous said...

You are incorrect with the second Mike. It is a permanent fixture so you can touch it without losing the point.

AR Hacked Off said...

Why would the area outside the singles sticks still be considered in play as far as touching, would be as if they do not exist when singles sticks are used.
Believe I have seen numerous examples where a player can touch the net and posts outside of the singles sticks since it is not technically part of the court anymore.

AR Hacked Off said...

http://www.usta.com/Improve-Your-Game/Rules/the_final_word_going_through_or_over_the_net/

Topic: Do you lose the point if you touch the net pole?

Question from Mary Ann: I returned a ball that was hit short over the net and after making a good angle return I touched the net support pole (not the net) with my hand. Is it my point or the opponents'?

KAUFMAN: In doubles, if you touch the net or the net post during play, you lose the point. When playing singles, with no singles sticks, if you touch the net post or net during play you lose the point. If you are playing with singles sticks and you touch the net post or net outside the singles sticks, it is NOT loss of point and play continues. If you touch the singles stick or any part of the net inside the singles sticks while the ball is still in play, you lose the point.

Uncle Si said...

Mr Fontana it would appear you are the one who will be buying lunch since your answer ton the second question is WRONG!!! How long have you been officiating????

Larry said...

Lunch Order: turkey on rye/double mayo/lettuce/tomato/red onion. Oh, and a big coke.

Put it on Michael's tab.......

AR Hacked Off said...

*chirp, chirp, chirp, chirp*